Sunday afternoon journaling on “The Red Pill” creator

Been laying low lately. Haven’t taken time to blog much on here in recent weeks (or months) not because I lack things to talk about but probably because I haven’t felt up to opening any big cans of worms. Call it burnout or fatigue with social issues. Still watching videos and reading articles nearly as much as always (on all sorts of topics), just not commenting on what I’m reading and watching since I’m tired of getting dragged down into the muck. Did plenty of that already in years prior. But likely will eventually feel up to it again in due time.

Today I was watching The Rubin Report where he had Cassie Jaye on talking about her documentary “The Red Pill.” Haven’t watched the documentary yet and so can’t comment on that. What struck me was how charitable she seemed toward Paul Elam and A Voice For Men’s site though she proclaimed to have started out on that venture as a feminist. I agree with her assessment that feminism is an ideology and a quasi-religion and have expressed similar sentiments in the past, but what gets me here is how she seems to view the Men’s Rights Movement as wholly different than that, whereas I see it shaping up along analogous lines. Plenty of MRAs have thrown a fit when I’ve stated that, but I watched and read a whole lot of their material since late 2012 and was unable to come to any other conclusion. Even while I agree with a number of the points they make and would like to see them succeed in garnering more attention for men’s rights and perspectives. I don’t hate them as a group, just not a fan of ideologues in general, whether male or female. That’s been my take on it and so I have wandered away from gender-bent movements overall. Would rather take issue with feminists and SJWs on my own turf without allying with any other movement.

Cassie Jaye mentioned she had basically gotten out of religion in her early adulthood and stated that feminism wound up reminding her of that period of time once she “awoke” to how feminism operates these days. I can’t help but see all of these movements as ideologically driven at their core, including the so-called “MGTOW” and the MRM. Maybe I’m being too knee-jerk when it comes to ideologies, I don’t know, but I just have no time or energy for any form of group-think. Not when it comes to a religion and not when it comes to any political party or social movement either. Sure, the MRM remains in a fledgling state and on the surface looks nowhere near as concerning as does feminism, but give it time. The divide between the sexes prophesied by George Orwell is what I see coming out of these movements expanding their scope and influence as time unfolds.

That Cassie Jaye doesn’t take the hostility on display within the MRM as anything more than “satire” is a bit disconcerting to me, having read and listened to plenty from Paul Elam over time. I don’t like the guy and will keep saying I don’t see him as a leader worth following. Period. He hurt his own movement through his own actions and choices, as well as through some of those he chose to bring near him to help build the movement (John Hembling immediately springs to mind). People will say that this is all well and good for an outsider like myself to stand on the sidelines and judge what they’re trying to do, but since I’m not in the ring actually doing something then my opinion isn’t worth a damn. Fair enough. Still. It is what it is. I can’t in good conscience direct men that I know to their sites and channels when I really wish I could. Largely because most men I know wouldn’t dig their content much either.

Anyway, time to get ready to head out so I must wrap this up. Haven’t watched her film so I can’t say much more on her shifting perspective. Will finish watching her interview on The Rubin Report later today. I would like to see men’s rights taken more seriously and perhaps it takes an obnoxious movement to help get the word out. I don’t know. Just know that I’m not a fan of most folks in either the Feminist or MRM/”MGTOW” camps. Both brought some good points and arguments to light, and both then wound up going where I could no longer follow. Take what’s useful from both and keep on trucking, I guess.

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