Was just listening to this video uploaded today by Bernard Chapin titled “AVFM Sacrifices Young Men”:
Then went and read the article written by Dean Esmay on AVFM: http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/please-sign-this-white-house-petition-to-declare-a-voice-for-men-a-terrorist-group/
Then went and checked out the White House petition in question: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/classify-mens-rights-movement-terrorist-group/W5018W63
[The diatribe that follows might not differ much from the video I created after typing it up, posted at the bottom.]
Gotta say that I am really surprised by Dean Esmay’s stance on the matter and completely oppose what he is suggesting. Like Chapin explained in his video above, in a post-9/11 America you would be a DAMN FOOL to announce to the U.S. government that you are a terrorist or are affiliated with what’s being accused of being a terrorist organization. Doesn’t matter that it’s all a bunch of hogwash and that the Rodger kid had nothing to do with the MRM — Dean’s article is still encouraging their followers, many of whom are young men, to sign a petition agreeing that the men’s rights movement is a terrorist group. Do you understand how serious that could be? This is the land of the NSA, the FBI, the CIA, Homeland Security — all of which would love more domestic targets for them to focus their time and resources toward so as to look like they’re actually accomplishing something. And we live in a society that we already know is pretty damn sympathetic to the feminist perspective.
Not too bright, fellas. You think this will attract attention toward your organization, but not all attention is created equal and not all will wind up helping your cause. Looking back on some of the things stated on the AVFM forum, I’m willing to bet their overarching message could be drowned out when people only look at excerpts and find them sufficient for forming opinions against a site like that. Because that’s how people are. Most aren’t going to take the time to read on there for months and months before reaching a conclusion. I did, but I am rare, and I still came to the conclusion that it’s not a movement I can get behind, largely because I take issue with its leaders, and Dean unfortunately just further cemented that stance.
The U.S. government isn’t known for its sense of humor, and the general public isn’t likely to be open-minded toward the “satire” popular within the “manosphere.” This is why I’ve been speaking up, despite it irritating people, and encouraging folks to act with integrity if they really want to see improvements made to the benefit of men. Because these tit-for-tat, back-and-forth, feminist-prodding jokes of an attempt to be taken seriously aren’t going to accomplish what all you’re hoping to accomplish. I pretty much promise you that. But don’t take my word for it — go on and stubbornly find out for yourselves.
Paul Elam, John Hembling, and now, sadly enough, Dean Esmay obviously do not have your best interests at heart. You’d be better off ignoring the petition than signing it and passing it around and encouraging others to sign it, for god’s sake. Bad fucking idea, guys. Totally unnecessary and not smart. You really have no idea what ramifications that could turn out to have on down the road. And what if eventually someone affiliated with the MRM does go nuts and shoots a bunch of people? What then? After you’ve already laughingly gone along with the notion that you guys are indeed supporting terrorism? You’re not, so DO NOT play as if you are. Don’t even joke like that, not in these times.
I’m very disappointed in Dean on this one. What kind of leadership is that? This whole matter makes me uncomfortable. The petition already has nearly 10% of the signatures it needs to reach its goal and there’s still a month left for it to do so. Obama mentioning you guys is no prize. Is this intended as some sort of martyr strategy? Because I’m willing to bet it may backfire if ya’ll insist on poking that bear.
Created my own video in response to this nonsense: